Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Welcome everyone to today’s episode on the culture profit. Today we’re super excited to welcome another Canadian guest, which is awesome for me with my dad being Canadian as well. I love talking with all the talented individuals up there. We’re welcoming Mitchell Osmond who’s talking to us about personal transformations and how to really own your life and your career all in one. So Mitchell, thanks for joining us today.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Yeah. Thank you for Thank you guys for having me on the show today.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): I really appreciate this opportunity and it’s going to be a powerful conversation.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah, I’m looking forward to it as well. I love this topic. And just to introduce Mitchell, do you go by Mitch, by the way, or just Mitchell?

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Whatever feels more natural. I do both.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): whatever comes out.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): So, just just go with the flow.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Okay. Mitchell Osmond (Guest) is a leadership consultant, executive coach, and host of the Dad Nation podcast, which is top 5% globally, 33,000 more than 33,000 listeners.

 
Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): That’s very impressive. Very impressive. As podcasters, we’re like, whoa. With more than 15 years in senior leadership, Mitchell equips high performing men to thrive at home in their health and in their happiness while amplifying their career success through coaching courses and his podcast. Mitchell helps men master mindset, build strong marriages, and lead with confidence. A sought-after speaker and thought leader, he shares insights on leadership, marriage, and high performance habits. His mission, empower men to lead with purpose, win in every arena, and leave a legacy that endures. So, tell us a little bit about your podcast and then tell us about you and your story, where you’re at in life today.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Yeah, sounds great. Um, yeah, like you said, it’s the Dad Nation podcast. That’s what you know that I’m the host of. And uh really the whole mission of the show and my coaching and the communities that I’ve created is really to help career-driven men reclaim their home, their health, and their happiness. And when I say home, I’m talking about your key relationships with your wife, um your kids, your when I say your health, I’m talking about exercise, nutrition, you know, how to optimize your physical health.
 

 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And then your happiness is really about our mindset. Uh especially as high performers, as leaders, um we can live our new life with our old scripts, you know, um as we grow up and we have things that we haven’t dealt with from the past, you know, limiting beliefs, the self-sabotage or the impostor syndrome, um insecurities, fear, anger that comes up. And so, uh we tackle all things mindset to help men really kind of get to the next level both professionally and personally. And so, that’s what I do and that’s what we talk about on the podcast. Everything that would challenge a man, husband, and father in 2025 is we get after it. Um, and so a little bit about me, I guess the origin story. Um, you know, a lot of people ask me, you know, what my turning point was because, you know, three years into my marriage, I found myself 60 pounds overweight. We were 100 grand in debt. Um, I was medicating daily with alcohol and drugs just to kind of cope.
 

 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And um and I was getting dangerously close to divorce and my wife said um you know to me one day she said we were on the couch in the living room and we had a big blow up. It was the fight that I felt like the one fight I walked away from feeling like I don’t know that I can. I’m going to be able to fix this and we had used the word for the first time in our marriage. Um that’s divorce if if you aren’t sure what I’m talking about. and uh and she said, “You know, you go to work and you give everyone the Mitch buffet and you come home and you give me the scraps and I’m done with it.” And uh and so for me, it was a turning point. Um where I knew that if I didn’t change something, I was about to lose everything that mattered because I had this point of realizing what’s the point in professional success, what’s the point in leadership and the influence if I’m going to be sitting around the Christmas tree alone this year?

 
Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Mhm.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And so for me it was like something had to change. That was the first point where the first wakeup call. The second point was seven days later I was invited to sing at the funeral of this wealthy man. He was a philanthropist and after some time the minister was going through talking about all the things that he had accomplished. He had asked the congregation are you living a life worthy of imitation? If you were to die today would you be proud of the legacy that you left? And as I was getting ready to sing the last song in that funeral, I could barely choke at the lyrics because all I could think was if this were my funeral, no one in this room would be saying, “I want to model the marriage he had. I want to model. I want to have the health and the body, the, you know, the vitality that he had. I want to model my finances after him.” They probably would have said at that point he struggled and then it was over because I came from this home of dysfunction where my childhood was littered with crime with abuse and drugs you know you name it.

 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And um and so that’s what happened. I got married and my unhealed wounds began to bleed into my marriage and my wife began to pay the price and she was beginning to have to unpack the baggage that I didn’t have that I didn’t deal with. And so that was kind of where I was. I walked away from that funeral that day determined uh to to change my story, to rewrite my story and and I made a commitment that I would actually die to to whatever I needed to die to in order to become the man, the husband, father I needed to be for my wife and my children. And so I went home that day and I made some commitments. I made some covenants and I said, “You know what? It ends this all ends with me.” You know, and I say this all on my show, every family has a curse breaker. For me in my family, I am the curse breaker and I’m committed to doing that. And so, you know, I surrounded myself with five men who who my ceiling was their floor.
 

 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): They were living where I wanted to be. And they held me to the standard that I said I wanted for my life. And guys, within 18 months, a year and a half, we uh I lost the 60 pounds, built a lean, confident body, paid off the 100 grand of debt, completely restored our marriage, and got clean and sober and focused on my future for the first time in my life. And I dealt with the pain and and from the past, I really kind of turned all that trash into treasure. And then shortly after that, uh probably about not shortly about after spending about 5 years helping other people in my life because I was always in positions of leadership because everyone started to see that I was losing weight and that my that we were showing up totally different. And they said, “Man, how are you doing this? What’s going on?” And so I started helping my friends get closer with their wives, building out budgets to help them get out of debt, helping them go to the gym with them, all those different things, creating meal plans for them.
 
  
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And a mentor of mine said, “If you really want to leave a legacy, to live a life worthy of imitation, you need to share your story with the world.” And so, uh, that was about two years ago, I launched the Dad Nation podcast. And within about 6 months, it became a globally rated top 10% podcast. And then I had listeners all around North America. And men started reaching out and saying, “Could you share with me? Could you coach me? Could you teach me?” And so I launched my coaching platform. And it’s been about a year and a half now. And so over the course of another 18 months, here I am again today. And really, that’s my story. And I’m, you know, I met him on his podcast a little while ago, you are the most qualified to help the person you used to be. And so for me, that’s all I do. I help men who I used to be.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Hello.
 
  
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And it’s like day after day after day, I’m helping men grow closer with their wives, show up more present, more powerfully as fathers, uh, and to end those cycles for themselves.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Clearly, you’re not alone. I mean, if your amount of listeners and how popular your podcast is doesn’t say anything. I mean, I’ve seen from experience that you’re not alone and that’s incredible that you’ve come from where you have and and I’m sorry that you had the childhood that you had. That’s really hard. Um, but props to you for coming away from that and being the curse breaker like you said. I think that’s very difficult to be the curse breaker and so congrats to you for coming away from that. And I’m just curious about your experience because you’ve worked with a lot of men that are coming to you. Do you see trends that I don’t know just in society in general? Do you feel like men are struggling to just be that provider, the I guess the ideal like father, husband kind of figure where they’re they’re the provider, they’re strong, they’re confident, um they’re leading their family.
 
  
Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Do you see that kind of being a struggle for a lot of men? Like just where I don’t know. I just think a lot of women these days are the ones that are like, I’m the powerhouse. I’m the career driven one and I can raise the family and be the career woman and and I feel like sometimes the men are like, “Well, what am I good for?” But I don’t know what you’ve seen in society.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): That’s exactly what I’ve seen in society and that’s not that’s ex that is exactly why I started this entire movement is because I was the confused man.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Okay. I I wasn’t I wasn’t sure if I was alone in this or not, but

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): I didn’t know what I mean I could barely say the word masculinity without getting cancelled. Right. and it’s uh you know I didn’t know how to be I didn’t have a model for me.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): My father was an alcoholic. He didn’t model a healthy marriage.

 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): He didn’t model what it looked like to respect and care for a wife or your or your children. And so I had to learn all the lessons the hard way. But as I began to grow, I saw men around me. I’m like, “Oh, you’re confused. Oh, you’re oh, we’re all confused.” Um, and we’re living in a modern society um that that does say, you know, there’s some sects of society that would say masculine or that that men don’t matter, you know, but let me let me share some numbers with

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): you might say otherwise. 63% of youth suicides come from fatherless homes. 90% of homeless and runaway children come from fatherless homes. 85% of children with behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes. And this one kills me. 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. And now these are statistics, but there are interesting statistics that I think should make us aware of the significance of the presence of a father in the home.
 

 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): The reason why I say this is because men are lonelier than ever. So for example uh since 1995 the number of men with zero close friends went from uh 3% up to 15% which is over tripled right. Um the average man today in the US spends over 2,000 hours per year in front of a screen escaping reality. We’re more medicated than ever. We’re drinking more alcohol than ever. We’re more anxious than ever. And we’re more confused about what our purpose is than ever before. And there’s a lot of reasons for that. But I would say yes, a million times yes. Um we are living in a time where um men don’t necessarily feel like they don’t have a purpose anymore.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And you’re right. And part of this is understanding the masculine and the feminine and how we’re wired and our essence.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Mhm.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Because what happens is when men stop showing up, when men stop providing, protecting, presiding, right, the the the feminine or the the the wife or the the female driver in the relationship, she steps into that masculine role and
 

 
Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Mhm.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): starts operating in a position that she doesn’t actually want to. Uh that she’s not necessarily wired to. And though she can do it, because women are incredible, um it’s not necessarily what she would prefer.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And so what happens is she begins to feel she sort of begins to feel like the man doesn’t necessarily have a purpose in the home because hey I’m doing it all. I’m mom. I’m dad. I’m the provider. I’m doing you know. And so what happens is we get caught in this cycle where men then begin to retreat into their own vices or whatever. They show up insecure. They show up, maybe they don’t show up at all. They’re checked out on their phones. They’re medicated. They’re drinking. Whatever. And then so the wife begins to and so a man’s basic needs a man’s two basic needs are two two things to feel respected and to feel competent, right? And a wife’s needs are to feel seen, heard, and safe.
 
 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Or we’ll just say to feel loved for now. But what happens is the wife begins to maybe not necessarily respect the man in the same way that he craves because he’s not living in a respectful way because he’s confused. She’s had to step in to take his role. But what happens is he feels disrespected. So his greatest need is not being met. So he becomes unloving, right? Which then is not meeting his wife’s most basic primal need to be loved, to be cherished. And so what happens is couples start to do this and they drift like and they become roommates wearing rings, roommates sharing a mortgage. And this is what happens in marriage when we’re confused about our role. I’m ranting. I feel like I’m preaching, but you understand. Does that make sense?

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): No, no, not at all. Yeah. No. And you know those those stats are they’re really sad but to me on the flip side it’s so empowering for men to hear those stats because right there is what the things that they can change by being a present father and by by doing all these things that you’re saying will help you be a better father and husband.
 

 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Yes.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): They can help those stats go, you know on the other side. they can be the ones that are I’m a present father and preventing these things from happening. So I think there is a flip side to that and there is so much that men can do in their homes. So yeah let’s dive more into how this affects well first I want to hear a little bit more about your kids. So, did you have kids at this time that you were going through this very eyeopening change? And like did you have how many kids do you have now?

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Yeah. No, we didn’t have kids then. And that was actually what the big fight was about because I wanted to have kids and my wife was like, I will never bring a child into this relationship.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Okay. Okay.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Right.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah. Great.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And so for me it was like, oh, what? You’re not happy? Like I was totally I mean I was so lost in my own pit, you know, that I didn’t see how unhappy she was.
 
  
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): I’m like, “Oh, okay.” And one of my biggest dreams was to be a father. Uh because I didn’t really have an active father.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And I realized, okay, so I’m I. I got some work to do because she was like, I refuse to have a child and to bring a child into this marriage. That wouldn’t be fair to them. And that was a sobering conversation, you know.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): No. Oh, so exciting.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Um and so so yeah, we have one son um and uh another one on the way she’s expecting. So yeah, we’re really looking forward to that.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Congrats. Congrats.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Yeah, it’s awesome. And uh and so you know another statistic that might really kind of bring things into context and was my story. We know that in the US today uh 70% of divorces are initiated by the women in the relationship. Seven out of every 10. Now in situations where the wife is a high earner, has a high education, right?
 

 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): That number actually jumps to 90%. So nine out of every 10 divorces where a wife has an education or is a high earner, the divorces are initiated by women. What’s even crazier is of those divorces 80% of the time uh the the main reason cited for the divorce is an emotional disconnection, lack of connection emotionally.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Wow.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): It’s not abuse, it’s not money, it’s not cheating, none of that stuff. I feel like I’m disconnected with my partner emotionally. I feel like I’m married to a robot. He’s checked out. Right? And that’s exactly why I do so much work about emotional intelligence, about how to connect with your wife on a deep emotional level because eight out of 10 divorces.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Thank you.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): That’s exactly why she leaves. And so many men wake up and they have no idea. And she’s packing her bags and he’s like, “What? I thought we were fine.” That was my story.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): blinds. Yeah.
 

 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Yeah, that was my story. And so that’s a lot of what I do is teaching men how to connect with their wives on an emotional level because at the end of the day that’s what she craves the most. Not a paycheck. I mean a paycheck is important but she doesn’t want a paycheck coming from a robot. She wants a paycheck coming from someone who can connect with her.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): She wants to feel seen and heard. Yeah.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Yes. Exactly. Seeing and being safe. Right. So

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yes. You know, this is so interesting. I feel like you’ve found a vein of need in society that is preventable and has an incredibly high impact. I mean families are the basic unit of society and there’s so much happiness and fulfillment that can come from every member of the family when there are meaningful and mutual respect relationships. Um, but it’s, you know, it’s something that impacts all of us, whether, you know, we’re the one thinking of, you know, our our past trauma and we’re building for the future or maybe we haven’t had that past and we’re just looking at our present situation.
 

 
Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): I think everyone can relate to this um even if it’s not themselves or maybe someone they know. U one thing I would say is how this relates to people leaders. You know, we have a lot of um HR leaders and people leaders that are coming to this show to learn about how taking care of people and putting people first is good for business. I recently went to an HR conference and a conversation came up about an employee that came in that was um suicidal and it was so eyeopening to just hear pretty much the whole conference room just stop. You know, nothing mattered anymore. The vendor presentations didn’t matter. Getting through the session didn’t matter. All these HR leaders were incredibly engaged in helping each other even though they were at different companies. How can we better help this person and people in hard situations when someone comes to us at work and is struggling with something really hard? And I think um you know as people leaders there’s a strong connection between family life and how things are going and how people show up at work and vice versa.
 

 
Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): You know that those two lives are connected whether we acknowledge it or not. And I think what you’re doing is truly helping people and families, but it also spills over to helping people’s careers, to helping companies. Um it’s all interconnected and I think it’s incredibly um honorable and and just I really like what you’re doing. So, thank you for that. And one thing we’ve talked about in many of our podcasts is how it’s impossible to leave work, leave home at home and leave work at work. They’re both big parts of your lives and the hours that you spend every day on home and family and then career are too significant to just be able to say my home life stays there and my work life stays there. And so obviously they benefit and affect each other.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Mhm. Yeah. I mean, it’s like spaghetti. You can’t pull one noodle without affecting the others, right? And that’s exactly what it is.
 
 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): and and and so many of my clients are like, “Man, I’m I’m at home and I’m thinking about work and I go to work and I’m thinking about my kids at home and I’m never truly present wherever I

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Mhm.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): am. How do I do that?” You know, and so and I think that’s because we’re all chasing this myth of work life balance. Well, we’re like, “What does that even mean?” Because balance implies that I’m going to shut something off and I’m going to start something up and it’s like a seesaw and it’s all it or or or we’re trying to find this equilibrium. But you think about it, right? like you never spend the exact amount of money each week. So you never actually have consistent balance like every single week. I mean some weeks you’re going to get Starbucks, other weeks you’re going to make coffee at home. I mean it could be, you know, whatever. Like each week it’s different. And so and that’s the same thing with our fitness, with our nutrition, with our marriages, with our children.
 
 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And so I don’t necessarily believe in the work life balance. I lean into work life integration of understanding that they’re integrated together. What does it look like for us to be integrated in our lives together as work and as family and our activities and stuff? Because they’re not separate and they can’t be, right? But how do you be present wherever you are, you know? And I love it. I mean I say this to my clients all the time. Be where your feet are. And I give them lots of tools around how to do that. But at the end of the day, wherever you are, be there. Right? Wherever your boots are, be in that moment, right? Whether it’s you’re standing in front of your kid and he wants to play or whether you’re in the boardroom or whether you know you’re winding down, uh, you know, once you put the kids together, put the kids down and you’re with your wife, be there, right?
 

 
Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): No. So

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And it’s so hard because we’re drowned out by noise today and we’re constantly thinking in a million different directions. So I agree with you uh work like personal professional it’s all intertwined and a lot of these tools can help with professionals as well right so and they make you show up more powerfully at

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): question for you Mitchell. Um, this is not like the questions that we had planned, but I I feel like the conversation has just gone to some really interesting points here, but you know, let’s say we have someone listening, they’re a people leader and they are aware of someone on their team that’s struggling with some things that you’ve talked about. Or maybe it’s someone that has these struggles themselves. Like what do you say to that person to just start this conversation to help them kickstart their own positive change?

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Yeah. Um there’s two things that I think are so critical. Um I would say three things. Number one is uh get clarity.

 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): So there’s three C’s. Uh because I’m obsessed with alliteration and I know it’s cheesy, but it is what it is. Clarity, uh community, and a coach, right? So clarity, you have to be very very clear on where what it is you want. 95% of the men I talk to every single day, the first question I ask them is, “What do you want?” And they’re like, “Uh, I don’t know, you know, but they’ve spent so long building the business or building their firm or doing whatever that they don’t even really know what they want.” And and and they were coming to me because they feel like maybe their professional success is there, but the personal isn’t, you know? And so, and I love this. You know, a lot of my clients, you know, I’ll do a eulogy writing exercise with them. Have you guys ever heard of that before?

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): No, no, I mean I can picture it, but yeah, tell us about it.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Okay. So, yeah. Yeah.
 
 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Yeah. Yeah. So, Napoleon Hill talked about this. Begin with the end in mind. Steven CVY in his book, The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. Chapter two begins with the end in mind. My funeral moment was me beginning with the end in mind. I had to flash forward to what kind of legacy I was leaving. And I did. I had a moment where I saw it. I was overweight. I was alone. I was depressed. And I was an alcoholic just like many people in my family.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Mhm.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And so what we do is I get my clients to write a eulogy. If they were to die today, you’re going to write your eulogy from the perspective of your wife as she’s standing over your casket. What are the things she would say about the man, the husband, the father you are today? Right? Which is sobering and it’s powerful. And then once we work through that, like I’m talking, you know, like Matt, you’re you’re going to write it from her perspective and she’s going to be like, you know, Matt was a loving father, you know, and and
 

 
Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): What are you gonna say?

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): So that’s and then what we do is we get a 2.0. If you were 100% the man that you knew you could be, that you were called to be, what would your wife be saying then if you were to pass away? And right there, the gap between the man that you are today and the man that you want to be, that’s where your tension, that gap, that’s where your tension lies. That’s where your frustration lies. That’s what keeps you awake at night because you’re like, “Oh, I know I could be doing more. I

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Oh, Right.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): “I know I should have showed up today like I did, you know, I knew I could have.” And so we get very very clear on what matters to us because at the end of the day I’ve never had a client write in their eulogy. He built seven, you know, multi-big seven, you know, figure businesses or he, you know, whatever. He got this award and that award. It was always like he loved his kids, he cherished his wife, he gave to his community.
 
  
Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): No.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): I’m like, okay, so why is it that you say that this is what you want, but your actions are something completely different? And so we extract, we extract and we get honesty, honesty, clarity, right? Number two is community. And so the reason why, and now I did this intuitively, you know, I surrounded myself with five men that helped me. You know, I actually built a framework around this called the iron five. So all of my clients have their own iron five. There are five men who surround them that are in close proximity to them and lift them up. And there’s different areas of their lives that they cover. But you will sabotage your impostor syndrome. You know your script from what you learned from when you were a child is going to come back and you’re and you’re going to turn it down and you’re going to go back on your commitments or whatever. We know this to be true statistically and that’s because 80% of the way we see ourselves and the way we see the world is formed before we’re 12 years old.
 

 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): That’s why we have to look back to our past to understand the trajectory that we’re on because we continue living this new life with this old wiring. We have to upgrade our software, right? And um and so the community piece is huge, the iron five. And then the last thing is the coach coaching you by bringing someone on board, a mentor. It doesn’t have to be a paid coach. It could be somebody you respect, you admire, someone again, someone whose ceiling is their floor, right? they’re living where you want to go, whatever. But they’re going to collapse the amount of time it’s going to take you because it could take you 10 years like it took me or it could take you 12 months, right? And so why not? And if we look at the value of time, it’s like well time is the most precious commodity we have. You know, I’ll say this one last thing. What time is the most time? What is that quote?
 
 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Time is the only uh commodity or the only currency we spend without knowing the remaining balance. We spend time all the time and we don’t know how much time we have left. It’s the only currency we spend without knowing the remaining balance. You guys, I don’t know if I got 60 minutes left or 60 years, right? And so every moment that I live needs to matter. So, if I can get a coach that can help collapse the amount of time for my breakthrough and I can get it in three months, heck yeah, I’m going to do that versus struggle through it and risk not

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): even ever getting there. Right? So, that would be what I would say to anyone listening. Don’t have the pride to think that you can do it on your own.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): You might, but statistically speaking, we know you probably won’t. And that’s not like a poo poo on you. It just is what it is, right?
 
  
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And that’s why we get stuck in cycles and traps because again, another statistic, 95% of the decisions you make today are the exact same decisions you made yesterday you made yesterday, right?

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And we’re creatures of habit. And so that’s why getting around a community, getting clarity, and getting a coach can challenge the way you think to call you up to a new way of living. Does that make sense?

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah, that’s amazing. Yeah. So, one thing I think is that a leader who’s hearing this, I mean, they can be that iron five, one of those pe one of those persons that others look up to. They can be that person for their fellow co, you know, their co-workers and anyone that’s um reporting to them. They can be that person for them that they look up to and just helps them realize what they want out of life. They can use this for them. And then if you’re someone who’s listening who you’re struggling with this yourself, go through these items, find your purpose, your goals, um find those people that you look up to and then and then change and find someone who can coach you through it.
 
 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Yeah.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): And I think part of being a coach is you need someone that’s going to keep you accountable.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Yeah. That’s 100% what it is.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): And here’s the thing. Uh you know when we think about transformation, what it takes, you know, especially on the internet, we really have three steps. We got information, uh organization, and implementation. When you have those three things, you can do almost anything. You know, Tony Robbins said this a few years ago now, but it still rings true. We’re a generation that is drowning in information, but we’re starving for wisdom, right? We have information wherever you want. You get whatever you want for free. If information was the solution, we’d all be running around in perfect marriages and six-packs and we’d all be billionaires. It’s not about information, right? But having someone who can take the information and the organization piece, put it all in the order that you need to process it and to consume it.
 
 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): But the implementation piece is huge. That two-way feedback and the coach or you know the community is going to be what lights the fire under you to make sure you implement right. And that’s the third biggest step. And I say this all the time. like on the podcast I can give you information and I can organize it information organization all day but only you can pull the trigger only you can implement right so you’re right listening today um that’s that’s huge you can find people in your life literally all I did in the back in the day was I looked around my social circle and I said who’s got the best marriage that I know of who seems the happiest right who’s who’s in the best shape who’s got the most money that I know and I just looked at those people and I said hey would you be willing to go for coffee’ once a month or a beer, whatever. I’ll buy it. Um could you just show me how you did what you do?
 
 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Um because I’d love I’d love some help. I’m having a hard time in this different area. And they’re like, of course, of course I’d love to. And here’s the thing, people stop themselves from doing that because they think, well, I don’t want to be a burden, right? I don’t want to be a burden. I don’t want to bother anybody. And I would say gently but firmly um don’t be selfish in the sense of robbing someone else of the opportunity to help you to step into your life because that’s how we find fulfillment is to give back to serve others. Right? I ask people all the time and when clients give me that excuse. I say, “When was the last time somebody asked you for advice? They reached out and said, “Hey man, I love what you’re doing here. Would you be willing to pick your brain? Can you give me some advice? And they were like, well, they told me they told me you know what it was.
 
 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): I said, how did that make you feel? I’m like, wow. I was flattered. I was humbled. I said, well, did you make time for them? 100% of the time. I say, well, yeah, of course. I’d love to. I said, okay. Did you even actually potentially consider moving some things around so you could help this person? Well, yeah. Yeah. So I said, ‘Well, what would make you think that you would be any different, you know, in reaching out to all these other people who you want help from? Because they’re going to find fulfillment from helping you because anyone who knows, anyone who’s ahead of you understands how difficult it is to get to where you want to be, right?

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Because they’ve been there. The only people who are going to be the only haters that are going to be there, the only people who are going to criticize are the people who aren’t going to be where you’re going.
 

 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): So it doesn’t matter, right?

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Mhm.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Who cares? The crab’s in a bucket, right? Get out of the bucket.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yep.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Does that make sense?

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah. And I’m guessing that’s part of why you are where you are now because that’s where you find fulfillment and happiness and success.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Yeah, that’s not about the money. It’s not about the business. It’s not about the statistics, the clients. I just want to help more men. I want to help them break the cycles in their lives. I want to help them show up powerfully. So often my clients, I got an email from one of my clients’ wives and he just said she grabbed my email from him and she said, “Hey, I’m obsessed with the man that my husband has become.” You know, thank you so much.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): That’s Mhm.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): I’ve never been happier. And I’m like, that is why we’re here. You know, he’s talking to his kids.
 
 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): You know, he’s doing bath time. He’s whatever. He’s fully in the room. And that is exactly why I do what I do because that’s I mean guys losing weight getting off medication you know being fulfilled um you know all that stuff is just it’s powerful right so that’s why I do it

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): And I would say it’s attainable. You know, we can change as men, as humans, as people. Living proof of it right here. We can become the future version of ourselves that we want to. And I think, you know, it takes some purposeful intervention to get there. And I think you’ve provided a lot of uh thoughtprovoking topics here today. And as we kind of wrap up, any final words of advice? I mean, we’re going to share a link to Dad Nation and any other resources that you have, Mitchell? We would love everybody to go check out your LinkedIn as well and learn more about what you’re doing.
 
  
Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Um but yeah, any final words as we kind of close up here?

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Yeah. No, no. Uh, first of all, thank you for having me here on the show today. This has been a blast. Um, one quick thing, you know, just as um, you know, we were sharing about all these divorce statistics and how so many men are blindsided and and and the importance of having stability in the home. You know, a lot of my clients really wrestled with connecting with their wives on an emotional level because we said, you know, that’s that’s a big deal. And so, I actually created something for my clients called the Spark Starter Kit. And it is what I tell people all the time. It’s like your romance on autopilot for an entire year. Okay? It’s like 365 pre-written text messages for every situation. Like whether you want to repair and reconnect, you want to encourage her, you want to turn up the heat, you know, whatever. A text for every single day.
 
 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): There’s 52 blue uh date night blueprints which are pre-planned for you. All you have to do is show up. They’re date nights and be the hero, right? There’s a hundred uh conversation starters for every situation.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Yeah.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): I’m talking about when you both are tired, uh when you both really um want to reconnect, you know, whatever. And then there’s a little small um three module romance reset course that’s available which tells you how to reset the polarity.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Heat.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): when I talked about masculinity, femininity, not necessarily knowing how to show up as a man in the relationship, all that stuff is covered and it’s like 17 bucks. It’s crazy cheap. Um, and yeah, and so if you’re if you’re listening to this today and you’re like struggling with like you feel like maybe the conversations are like dead end with your wife or you end up on your phone on

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): That’s all.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): date nights because you just don’t know what to talk about or or maybe you know you find it hard to find the time to plan dates.

 

 
Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Well, I’m giving it to you on a silver platter for $17. So cheaper than a bouquet of flowers that let’s be real are going to die within a week. So that was just one encouragement and I made it super cheap because I want it to be accessible for anyone who wants it. So that would be my encouragement. You can just go to sparkstarterkit.com or I can give you the link and you can put it in the show notes.

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Perfect. Yeah, we’ll definitely grab that from you and put it in the article and that’ll be perfect. Thank you so much. I love what you’re doing and yeah, thank you to everybody listening. check check out more resources. We’ll post them in our highlight article. And seriously, we love what you’re doing and keep it up and this world needs you. So, thank you so much.

 

Mitchell Osmond (Guest): Thank you so much for Yeah. Thank you for having me on the show. This has been an honor and a and a

 

Matt & Crista Vance (Hosts): Thanks, Mitchell. And thanks everyone for listening. We’ll see you next time.